I don't understand it. The Greek word to render the divine name for Yahweh is Kurios, which means the Lord or master. With this logic, he can fit both Jesus and God the Father in the Shema comfortably. by whom are all things, Tim: Yeah, there you go. And since the Gospels were written 40 years after the events, they have the most developed views of Jesus." The language of faith is ubiquitous in Paul’s letters and has a great range of meaning. Paul’s view, however, was that his Gentile converts could join the people of God in the last days without becoming Jewish, and he argued vociferously that faith in Christ was the only requirement for Gentiles. Now we have two infinities. Jon: Yeah, it's the image of God. Tim: No, the category of Jesus being the one by whom creation happened. For those of you who donate so that we can make videos and this podcast and all the resources, we are having a blast, and we're so incredibly grateful for you. Jon: He's not just my master, he's master of everyone. the Father, But once you start getting into the Hebrew Bible categories of this Son of Man, this human one that's exalted to share in God's rule over the universe, and it's the one that in Psalm 110, David calls this one master, who is this one? Tim: That's right. Let's try and make an argument. It factors into something, like some formulas and things. Jon: So let's drop into the psyche of Paul the Apostle, how he thinks about Jesus of Nazareth as the true human and also as somehow Yahweh himself. Once you print out, it's a little poem. He's made a little messianic Jesus style Shema prayer right here. Jon: It's very weird for him the first time to say, "Jesus is Lord, and by that I mean master." Next, Paul reiterates the fact that there is a resurrection for the dead, and there need not be a baptism for the dead by those who are alive. The word and the ruakh, wisdom also. The poem is still isn't over. Jon: But the "for him" is referring to the Father, and "through him" is Jesus. That's first born up there. So think about how this works. "For in him, it was the Father's good pleasure for all of his fullness to dwell.". While “buried with” and being “baptized into” are the most graphic terms describing the individual’s escape from sin, the most common word for this conversion is “faith”—that is, faith in Christ. The verb “to put one’s faith in” or “to believe” (the same Greek word, pisteuein, may be translated both ways) appears 49 times in the undisputed letters, while the noun “faith” (or “belief”) appears 93 times. According to Krister Stendahl, the main concern of Paul's writings on Jesus' role, and salvation by faith, is the problem of the inclusion of gentile (Greek) Torah observers into God's covenant. That's right. How do I know that? During his lifetime his disciples may have begun to think of him as the Messiah (“Christ” in Greek translation), the anointed one who would restore the fortunes of Israel. Here he's referring to the sons of God, the spiritual beings. It's one of these things where when we're talking about the complex unity of the God of the Bible, one plus one equals one. whether things on earth or things in heaven. Jon, you passed.Jon: Yaay, I've been paying attention. We don't need to say anymore. He needed to engage in mission because the fundamental sin of human beings is the failure to honor and praise God. The Shema, the word of Yahweh, and wisdom of Yahweh. It's naming the limits of the capability of our actual brain to comprehend realities that are beyond however much math we can comprehend. All right. So he taught intentionally in short, memorable sayings and really captivating short stories for the purpose of easy to pass along teachings. Before addressing this commonly held teaching, let’s consider what Jesus Christ taught on … and we exist through Him. This solution, however, seems not to have been in Paul’s mind, and it took centuries of debate to evolve. Tim: For all things have been created through him and to himself, or for himself. We then turned to the Gospels and looked at how Jesus and the Spirit are related to God's complex identity. He says, "Listen, we know there's no God but one. But Paul is clear that he is describing not Christians’ departure from earth but Jesus’ arrival—his ‘coming down from heaven’—and the language he uses (parousia, v 15) draws on the description of a king returning to a city he rules after a long absence. Tim: Correct. and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, It's not just some cute little thing to think about. Tim: But it's there and it's a beautiful poetic form. Muslim views. Exodus 4, Israel is my firstborn son. This is the meaning of “justification” or “righteousness” by faith, not by law, in Galatians and Romans. Some offerings were burnt up whole, like the whole burnt offering. Then he goes on to quote from the Old Testament book of Joel. Jon: Got it. Greek Septuagint: “Hear O Israel, Kurios is our theos, Kurios is one. Tim: God calls the family of Abraham "My firstborn son" in Exodus 4. For this reason, scholars concur that Luke has a different view than Paul does about whether Paul was an actual appointed apostle of Jesus - an Apostle with a capital "A." According to Paul, all humans, no matter how hard they try, are enslaved by sin (Romans 7:14–21). Tim: Here's something significant and it's counterintuitive at first when you hear it. In Romans 3:9-12 Paul makes clear that there is no difference between Jew or Gentile, for “all are under the power of sin.” This fact, coupled with the truth that righteousness in not merited through works but “is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe” (Rom. Scriptures wrongly applied to appear that Paul did not view OT as infallible ” 12 Therefore, since we have such a hope, we are very bold. Jon: Okay. There you go. Here, firstborn is he's the first new human who's gone through death and came out the other side as the new humanity so that he might have first place in everything. visible and invisible, For us, there is one God (theos), The escape, rather, requires being “buried with” Christ through baptism. (“Righteousness” and “justification” translate the same Greek word, dikaiosynē.). Tim: That's right. Or in the precincts. And then for them to say, "Next, everyone who calls on the name of Yahweh will be saved." He's not saying that. Thus, Galatians 3:24–28: “Therefore the law was our disciplinarian until Christ came, so that we might be justified by faith”; “in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith”; those baptized into Christ have “clothed yourselves with Christ”; and the conclusion, “There is no longer Jew or Greek, there is no longer slave or free, there is no longer male and female; for all of you are one [person] in Christ Jesus.” “Righteousness by faith” is not actually something different from being baptized into Christ and becoming one person with him. Eden, Tae the Producer Tim: And so, why that's interesting is that Paul, the way he talks about Jesus is the same kind of highly exalted view that we find in the Gospel narratives that technically post- date Paul. In Galatians and Romans the language of “righteousness by faith” yields to the language of being in Christ. Jon: If he was created, then how did he create everything? This episode continues our series on God as a character in the Bible. Jon: I mean, someone must have translated the divine name into Greek. Once Christ defeated all of his enemies, including death, he would turn creation over to God, so that God would be “all in all” (1 Corinthians 15:20–28; Romans 8:18–25). In the seven undisputed letters, the word “forgiveness” does not appear, “forgive” appears six times (Romans 4:7; 2 Corinthians 2:5–10), and “repent” and “repentance” appear only three times (Romans 2:4; 2 Corinthians 7:9–10). It's actually right from the very beginning, you just have the same ways of talking about Jesus as Yahweh. This absolutist ethical view—those in Christ are to be morally perfect; those not in Christ are extremely sinful—was not always true in practice, and Paul was often alarmed and offended when he discovered that the behaviour of his converts was not what he expected. And it's about Jesus as the expression of God's power and love. Tim: The Father, from whom are all things and we exist for him. And because the events talked about in the gospels were the foundation events for the Jesus movement, it's hard to do a remap when you're thinking in terms of chronology. The ruakh is in the mix. They're rarely the main point. For Paul, however, Jesus’ death allowed believers to escape not only the consequences of transgression but also the power of sin that leads to transgression. Because it seems like what he's saying when he says firstborn of all creation, it's not like God had a bunch of kids and Jesus was the oldest. Reflect on what you read. For even if there are so-called gods whether in heaven or on earth, as indeed there are many gods and many lords, yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him.”. They just actually put the word. But instead what he says is things like this, which ends at mostly the same place. Tim: You're right. Paul’s universe included regions below the earth (Philippians 2:10); “the third heaven” or “Paradise” (2 Corinthians 12:1–4); and beings he called angels, principalities, rulers, powers, and demons (Romans 8:38; 1 Corinthians 15:24). We did the whole thing on the origin of the Gospel. Jon: Does he talk about wisdom? The physical universe also needed to be freed from “bondage to decay.” The fact that individual believers could escape from sin did not free the entire world. In Paul’s theology, the human achievement of Jesus was important because his obedient fidelity to his vocation gave moral and redemptive value to his self-sacrifice. Tim: Correct. Paul sees his own physical suffering and spiritual renewal—”though our outer self is wasting away, our inner self is being renewed day by day” (2 Cor. Those who are in Christ will be transformed into a spiritual body like Christ’s when he returns, but they are already being “transformed” and “renewed” (2 Corinthians 3:18; 4:16); the “life of Jesus” is already being made visible in their mortal flesh (4:11). "Concerning eating food sacrificed to idols, we know that there's no such thing as an idol." Tim: Humans are the image of God. Jesus obviously went around saying and doing things, and a lot of those were really easy to memorize. Since those who partake of the Lord’s Supper participate in the body and blood of Christ, they cannot also participate in the meat and drink at an idol’s table (1 Corinthians 10:14–22). Even before, I'm sure. Jon: We do, in fact.Tim: We have a lot of shelf space for that idea.Jon: We've got two big shelves at least. the firstborn from the dead ones; Like there's a different sizes of infinity. It's the beginning of Gospel of Luke series. [both] in the heavens and on earth, Let's go to Colossians 1. Jon: Right. Sheesh. This meant that through Christ’s death, the baptized believer has mystically or metaphorically died and thus died to the power of sin that reigned in the world (Romans 6:3–4). Most frequently, however, the verb means “to put one’s entire confidence and trust in Christ,” as in Galatians 2:20: “the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God.”, In Galatians and Romans the phrase “be justified by faith in Christ, not by doing the works of the law” is used to oppose the view of some Christian missionaries that Paul’s Gentile converts should become Jewish by accepting circumcision and Jewish law. Paul continued to have new ‘revelations’ that spoke ‘of’ and ‘for’ a Christ, but he was glaringly silent about the actual life of Yahushua (Jesus) and his teachings. Part of the reason some believe the apostle Paul changed what Jesus taught is the perception that Paul’s teaching on grace means that obeying God’s law is no longer required. So he matches the firstborn of all creation. Just as the elders come out of the city to greet the king, whose authority they have exercised in his absence, and turn to enter the city … Feat. Tim: He keeps going. Tim: Mary gave birth to Jesus. Then how he applies it in a story about Jesus is he puts Jesus in the Yahweh slot. Tim: Yeah, they'll eat the animal that has been sacrificed. Jon: For me, it's like, "What?". Tim: Yeah, it's a barbecue pit. See Acts chs. "That if you declare with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you'll be saved. Jon: Visible dominions and invisible dominions. And all that's happening as Paul's writing his letters. the firstborn of all creation. He's not limiting Jesus to that, but he's using a Jewish category to help make sense of how one plus one equals one. Jon: Paul was a first century Jew, and like all of his family before him, he would daily recite the Shema, which goes like this: "Hear, O Israel: The Lord is our God, the Lord is one." This is Thanksgiving week here in the United States, and so we just wanted to take a moment and let you know that we are incredibly thankful for you for listening along, for being involved in this project, for sharing it. Tim: Correct. biblical literature: The chronology of Paul. Tim: Not when the events happened but when the texts came into existence. Tim: Totally. What's fascinating is that he actually almost never has to argue for his views about Jesus. Tim: No. There's no way to truly explain this poem. Jesus Christ, and one Lord (kurios), He thought that his converts were dead to sin and alive to God and that conduct flowed naturally from people, varying according to who they really were. Things like the Sermon on the Mount and those parables. We've already been in this territory. Jon: But is there ever a point in the New Testament where the divine name is used? And so, really what you want to look for is what he just assumes what he says that shows, "Hey, I know this, you know this, we all believe this, this is what followers of Jesus believe about Jesus." In this grand vision of the redemption of the created order, Paul shows how deeply he believed in one God, maker of heaven and earth, and in the cosmic importance of his Son, Jesus Christ. Then look what he says. Tim: Yeah, you're right. Read Acts c… Identified the Father with one, identify—, Tim: Yeah. Tim: If you're looking at it from that lens, what was written first, the letters of Paul are the earliest Christian literature that exist. "And through him to reconcile all things to himself." What I remember you saying is that at very practical level from the firstborn child, that means I get the inheritance. He needed to engage in mission because human beings are separated f… For there's no difference between Jew and Gentile. These are the orally memorized teachings of Jesus. We saw this in the page 1 of the Gospel of Mark, a quotation from the Old Testament, and in the divine name slot, Lord. Paul’s passionate extremism, however, was doubtless often attractive and persuasive. Christ’s death, then, defeated sin in both senses: his blood brought atonement for transgression, and his death allowed those who were “united with him” to escape the power of sin. It's interesting because again, he doesn't argue for the case. The Father and the Son. These are exact same word. Jon: He's the image. And He is head of the body, the church; How can we figure out. By using this website, I acknowledge that I am 16 years of age or older, and I agree to the. Jon: If God is transcendent and ultimately is beyond meta, then one plus one equals one. Psalm 33: "By the word of Yahweh the heavens were made." The divine name... Jon: So the divine name Yahweh written with Hebrew letters, but then pronounced Lord? This movement was founded by Jim Wallis, Tony Compolo, Brian McLaren, and Shane Claiborne. Thanks for joining us. The Messianic Shema in 1 Corinthians 8:6: Anyway. We've gone through the Hebrew Scriptures and looked at the complex identity of God. It was Paul, not Jesus, who originated the “Christianity” of today. Anyways, one plus one equals one. There are transcriptions of it. Paul again and again hits on the theme that the weakness of his frame is designed to magnify the power of God’s name. I mean, at least in Paul's logic. The Messianic Shema. Tim: Yeah. It's a concept we can't understand. Jon: So you take an infinity like every odd set of numbers that is infinity, you add that to every even set of numbers that is infinity, and what do you get? Or he's drawing upon three traditions here. Many biblical scholars and lay Christians have noted that Jesus preached almost exclusively about the kingdom of heaven, while Paul highlighted justification by faith—and not vice versa… In Philippians 2:6–11 Paul states that Christ Jesus was preexistent and came to earth: he “emptied himself, taking the form of a slave, being born in human likeness.” This sounds as if Jesus was a heavenly being who only appeared to be human. That's also an infinite set of numbers. After his death and resurrection, his followers regularly referred to him as the Messiah (Acts 2:36: “God made him both Lord and Messiah”). Jon: You know, when you said, "One plus one equals one," that made me think of is just infinity plus infinity equals infinity. The early Christians just adopted the tradition that was centuries old by this point, which is not saying the syllables of the divine name. But now take every odd number. So the first is that he's basically stuck Jesus in the Shema. Jon: Which is Jesus is Lord. This week you will be reading Acts chapters 9-15 to get a historical perspective on Paul’s life and writings. In the Shema, the whole point is, Yahweh is our God. He goes on to say, "He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation." For him and through him. 1 Corinthians 8:6, it's the Shema Jesus style. Tim: But that is in essence what he's doing. Paul thought that membership in the body of Christ really changed people, so that they would live accordingly. Jon: You know what? [00:07:43], Tim: Here's a well-known passage, at least for some people. Here's something significant and it's counterintuitive at first when you hear it because the four Gospel accounts come at the beginning of the New Testament and then the book of Acts and then you get the letters of Paul and the other apostles. Only from there do they then obtain spiritual life. In part one (0:00-7:25), Tim explains that Paul’s writings are actually chronologically written earlier than the Gospels, even though they come toward the end of our modern Bibles. When the time was right, God would send Christ back to save the cosmos by defeating all the remaining forces of sin and to liberate all of creation. There are so many weird things with infinity. Tim: To have a party. People have natural life first; that is, they are born into this earth and live here. And actually, put it there. Jon: Is he using Lord as master or Lord as Yahweh? Tim: I mean, that's what the words mean. Jon: The man, the Son of Man. He even got killed. And Paul compares this salvation to the example of the faith without works righteousness God reckoned for Abraham(Rom.4:1-5). Tim: In a metaphoric way, something like that seems to be going on. He sounds very Jewish right there. Then he attaches matching phrases to each. It's not the case. Millard Erickson observes that Paul provides evidence of Jesus’s humanity in the Apostle’s letter to the Romans by using the phrase “one man” three times in regards to Jesus (Romans 5:15, 17, 19 [NASB]). Tim: 1 Corinthians 8: “Yet for us, there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for him, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things and we exist through him.” It's a little poem. That person saying "I am Jesus" never appoints Paul as an Apostle. He's not just saying—. Jon: In a metaphoric way he did. Tim: You are acing this quiz. Jon: Then because of that, now, Paul never says Jesus is Yahweh because— Tim: He does say that. Tim says that this passage is originally formatted as poetry, which makes sense because there are so many complex ideas being presented that poetry is the only proper way to appreciate it. Basically, the point is, is the gospels are coming into existence in this very period when Paul's actively writing his letters. So that's a category already. Tim: Yeah. Tim: Yeah. I say this because some people have claimed that 1 Corinthians 15 is the chapter where Paul tries to prove Jesus resurrection. Remember first born here. By means of his word and the Spirit. He's made a little messianic Jesus style Shema prayer right here. Paul also references Jesus appearing in bodily form in 1 … It shows that Paul equated the words of Jesus quoted from Luke 10:7 to OT scripture, viewing both as the infallible word of God. And He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. Those who are under sin naturally commit sins—“those who are in the flesh cannot please God” (Romans 8:8)—but those who are in Christ produce “the fruit of the Spirit” (Galatians 5:22; compare Philippians 1:11; Romans 8:2–11). So Paul picks up the language of that and applies it in a similar dynamic where you have Greek and Jewish Christians living in a really dense Greco, Greek and Roman city, ancient Corinth with idols temples everywhere. Jon: Of when things were written. But anyways. He's not saying that it might not represent a real spiritual being. Tim: There's one Elohim. whether thrones or dominions The return of the Lord and the resurrection of the dead. Tim: Oh, Israel is the son of God. Muslims have long believed that Paul purposefully corrupted the originalrevealed teachings of Jesus,[191][192][193]through the introduction of such elements as paganism,[194]the making of Christianity into a theology of the cross,[195]and introducing … Jon: Right? This gospel was not preached during Jesus’ earthly ministry or by the Twelve. It just evokes so much more richness of meaning. And one day, once my parents are gone, it'll just be me. He made people believe that they could really change for the better, and this must often have happened. Jon: Let's talk about it again. And there are some ancient Greek spelling of it. Jon: Or wouldn't it be nice if he would have said Jesus is Yahweh? This is one of the most epic poems in the New Testament. It's actually an important distinction. 1. Tim: Visible and invisible.Jon: So visible thrones and invisible thrones? His death, in the first place, was a sacrifice of atonement for the sins of everyone. This has been a really long conversation. Yeah, he's not using the procreation part of the metaphor, which he makes clear by the next thing that he says. It's mostly that as we're going to see in a few other examples, he treats the Spirit as a third entity alongside the Father and the Son. Happy Thanksgiving. We've talked about the firstborn language. The Shema in Deuteronomy 6:4-5: I'm the one. I think the fundamental sin is dishonoring God. Even Jesus, after His baptism when the heavens opened and the Spirit of God descended upon Him as a dove, and the voice from heaven cried out, “This is My beloved Son in whom I am well pleased”…immediately after that, Jesus was plunged into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil…to fast and to pray for 40 days. Paul opposed making these aspects of the law mandatory for his Gentile converts. Jon: So whenever a Hebrew reader would get to that, they wouldn't say the word they're looking at, they would say the word Adonai? Which is you should be thinking like, "Humans are the image of God.". Tim says Paul breaks with the meanings of the words and how they had been used in the Hebrew scriptures. Jesus was a messiah son of God sent to earth to free all those who accepted him of their sins. He goes on to say, "Listen, there's no difference between a Jewish person or a Gentile person. So cool. Spend a few minutes each day reading these passages and reflecting on how God’s marvelous grace offers you a life of freedom and joy. They are very piecemeal. ", Paul's condensing here actually not his own unique message. Tim: Yeah. Man: This is (man) from Raleigh, North Carolina. Since neither “messiah” nor “son of God” automatically conveys a specific meaning, the significance of these terms must be determined by studying how each author uses them. Tim: Exactly. It was in this context that he predicted suffering and even death or postmortem punishment for transgressions (1 Corinthians 11:30–32; 3:15; 5:4–5). But then what he says about Jesus matches "by whom are all things.". Or for a Jew to say this to a mixed community of other Jews and Gentiles who are all reading, have as a part of their scriptures the Greek Bible, then this becomes a very loaded statement, Jesus is Yahweh. Today Tim and Jon dive into the writings of Paul in the New Testament. Jon: So we're going to be looking at a lot of New Testament passages? What you find in them isn't some idea that like, "Well, actually, the earliest Christians just had no clue and they were just figuring it out. Demonstrating the character of Christ is agape love . Jon: But in a metaphoric way? "And even if there are other spiritual beings, gods in heaven and on earth - of course, there are many gods and lords - yet for us, there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things, and we exist for him, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things and we exist through him." What's interesting is, a lot of Paul's most dense statements about Jesus are found in poems that are embedded in his letters. Here's another example. These have all been committed to memory so they're floating around and they're being preserved and passed on by the circles connected with the apostles. This one's awesome. As noted above, Paul paid special attention to Jesus’ death and resurrection. Tim: Yeah. He's quoting from the book of Joel, which if you read it in Hebrew, it's "everyone who calls on the name of Yahweh." So it's a smaller infinity. And now in this episode, we're going to turn to the Apostle Paul. Then he goes on to say, "And there's one kurios, one Lord, Jesus the Messiah by whom are all things and we exist through him." We are going to talk now about sin. But if you take every single number, that's an infinite set of numbers, right? This is not the meaning of the debate about “works of the law” in Paul’s letters, however. Jon: Well, no, I can't explain infinity. So relevant to our conversation, I just want to have us work through a handful of passages in Paul's letters where he expresses his views about Jesus. Only the worst forms of denial of Christ can remove an organic member from the body of Christ. Tim: That's right. Tim: Put your ear up to the buzz of the hive of a poem. Paul tells us in verse 46 that the natural came first and after that the spiritual. Circumcision was the sign of the covenant between God and Abraham, the first of the Hebrew patriarchs, and it was traditionally required of all Gentiles who wished to worship the God of Israel. Jewish tradition by this time, the Greek translation of the Hebrew Scriptures has been available for a couple of centuries now. Tim: But he doesn't. He was entirely in favour of good deeds, as the emphasis on perfect behaviour shows, and he did not regard good works as being opposed to “faith.” On the contrary, faith produced good deeds as “fruit of the Spirit” (Galatians 5:22). He's using the Shema to talk about idolatry. Jon: Is the firstborn of God. So we're looking at the earliest Christian literature, the earliest expressions of Christian belief that were written down are the letters of Paul. That he is God, he is a part of the complex unity that is God's identity and he is the first real human who's passed through mortality into the new humanity. He could have easily done that. Tim: And that's because, the poem goes on, "he is before all things and in him." According to Paul he was also a teacher and that how he spread the Good News. I've discovered it's not good. So think Genesis 1. having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, As Beth Moore becomes increasingly liberal in her political views, she seems to be embracing the theology of other liberal “Christians” of the Red Letter Christian Movement who disrespect the Apostle Paul and his writings in favor of a modern, liberalized view of Jesus’ teachings.. . It's very specifically the divine name is the God of Israel. We believe the Bible is a unified story that leads to Jesus. Again, this isn't just punting to mystery. Someone had to tell you. Let's take to heart this description from Paul and remind ourselves today that were it not for Christ's agape love toward us, we would not be able to offer it faithfully to others. Right? 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